I would like to stay long story short, but I don't think that I will wind up being brief.
I live in Japan, but I expect to return to the US in 2 years. Skool teechur.:icon_tup:
I am lucky, but I have occasionally had access to salvage 20b engines for less than $4000. Never bought one because I'm not a "rotary" guy. I am a FD RX7 guy. Initially, I wanted to do a LS swap, but the money is what it is for that. If I lived in the US and had no connections here in Japan, a 20b swap would be just as economically unfeasible. I have also had access to FD RX7s with blown engines selling for less than $3000.
I think people can see where my thinking is going if you also know how little Renesis complete engines with 6-speed manual transmissions sell for in the US.
With the 25 year rule, 1991 and up FD RX7s will be exempt right now or very soon depending on the month of manufacture. The costs for a US FD RX7 are still way too high compared to here in Japan. So, getting a FD RX7 with a blown engine and shipping it to the US to my brother's garage to sit is still cheaper than buying in the US. I could get a 20B and maybe this is the inevitable way to go.
However, I've been researching the Renesis engine and so much speculation can be found from 10 years ago and a lot of big talk and dreams posts since then. Lots of hate on the Renesis engine as well. I don't know the justification if there is a justification. But, when I find complete engine/tranny dropouts in the US for less than $1600, this gets my attention.
Not looking for the baddest car out there because I've ridden in cars on the Shuto Expressway that any sane person would not want as a daily driver. 300hp at the crank is good enough for a 2 rotor. Turbo is not preferred. NA with ITBs seems the way to go as far as I can tell. Crazy porting is good for race cars and everybody wants a 4 rotor for a 2 rotor price.
So, even with the massive cost savings of buying a Renesis in the US, will the $2000+ I can save over a 20B simply vanish to moment that I have the engine tuned because it just cannot make power even in 2016 and if it does, it'll blow up?
I know money cures all, but I also know that big name shops like RE Amemiya are not the only rotary tuners in Japan. Smaller qualified shops looking to make a name can do equal work for far less money. True for all cars here in Japan (had a shop in Tokyo quote me $30,000USD to turbo a Suzuki M16 engine when even Monster Sport would not charge near that). Can 300hp reliable NA power be had without having to spend the same amount of money to get a Koenigsegg?
Yes, the force is strong with this noob. I'm coming from a Nissan and Suzuki background, so my rotary knowledge is limited - fact or rumor is hard to split without having a lot of experience.
I live in Japan, but I expect to return to the US in 2 years. Skool teechur.:icon_tup:
I am lucky, but I have occasionally had access to salvage 20b engines for less than $4000. Never bought one because I'm not a "rotary" guy. I am a FD RX7 guy. Initially, I wanted to do a LS swap, but the money is what it is for that. If I lived in the US and had no connections here in Japan, a 20b swap would be just as economically unfeasible. I have also had access to FD RX7s with blown engines selling for less than $3000.
I think people can see where my thinking is going if you also know how little Renesis complete engines with 6-speed manual transmissions sell for in the US.
With the 25 year rule, 1991 and up FD RX7s will be exempt right now or very soon depending on the month of manufacture. The costs for a US FD RX7 are still way too high compared to here in Japan. So, getting a FD RX7 with a blown engine and shipping it to the US to my brother's garage to sit is still cheaper than buying in the US. I could get a 20B and maybe this is the inevitable way to go.
However, I've been researching the Renesis engine and so much speculation can be found from 10 years ago and a lot of big talk and dreams posts since then. Lots of hate on the Renesis engine as well. I don't know the justification if there is a justification. But, when I find complete engine/tranny dropouts in the US for less than $1600, this gets my attention.
Not looking for the baddest car out there because I've ridden in cars on the Shuto Expressway that any sane person would not want as a daily driver. 300hp at the crank is good enough for a 2 rotor. Turbo is not preferred. NA with ITBs seems the way to go as far as I can tell. Crazy porting is good for race cars and everybody wants a 4 rotor for a 2 rotor price.
So, even with the massive cost savings of buying a Renesis in the US, will the $2000+ I can save over a 20B simply vanish to moment that I have the engine tuned because it just cannot make power even in 2016 and if it does, it'll blow up?
I know money cures all, but I also know that big name shops like RE Amemiya are not the only rotary tuners in Japan. Smaller qualified shops looking to make a name can do equal work for far less money. True for all cars here in Japan (had a shop in Tokyo quote me $30,000USD to turbo a Suzuki M16 engine when even Monster Sport would not charge near that). Can 300hp reliable NA power be had without having to spend the same amount of money to get a Koenigsegg?
Yes, the force is strong with this noob. I'm coming from a Nissan and Suzuki background, so my rotary knowledge is limited - fact or rumor is hard to split without having a lot of experience.
Renesis Swap in a JDM RX-7 is realistic....but worth it?
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